In this episode, Jon Levine, Chuck Warren, and Sam Stone discuss growing suspicions around President Biden’s health, focusing on concerns of a potential medical cover-up involving stage four prostate cancer. They highlight the unique credibility of Rep. Ronnie Jackson—a former White House physician to Presidents Obama and Trump—who has spoken out about Biden’s condition and the medical protocols that should have been followed.
The hosts examine inconsistencies in the administration’s handling of Biden’s prostate health, questioning whether basic screenings like PSA tests were neglected or suppressed. They consider explanations ranging from negligence to an active cover-up, especially given Biden’s previously documented prostate condition in 2019. The lack of transparency, they argue, damages public trust in both the White House and the press.
The conversation also touches on the unusual loyalty of Biden’s longtime staff and the surprising absence of insider tell-all accounts from his administration—unlike what has emerged from past presidencies. The hosts predict that such revelations may come eventually, but likely only after both Biden and Trump have fully exited the political stage.
Transcripts
Jon Levine: He's a very, very good congressman. But I remember Ronnie Jackson before he was in Congress. And his job is he had a fascinating job. It was physician to the president. He was the highest medical official in the United States government and the president's personal care team.
So he you know, if Obama had a cold, he went to Ronnie Jackson. If President Trump didn't feel he went to Ronnie Jackson. Ronnie Jackson was in charge of their personal medical evaluations, keeping them healthy. In fact, it's the exact same job as the man who is now accused as being part of the Biden cover up,
Kevin O'Connor, decision to President Biden. So he has this incredible background that isn't as widely known as it should be. So when you start seeing all this stuff about Biden cover-up, medical cover-up, the prostate cancer stuff, my first thought is to always go to Ronnie Jackson, because his opinion,
there is no one who has a more credible opinion on these matters than him, because he actually was in the arena and did the very job and worked with the same people and institutions that are now accused of being complicit in the cover-up. So... You know, that's not something you can say about every Republican congressman or any.
You know, it's a very, very rarefied group of people that he's a part of. So I reached out and we spoke a lot about different things. And one of the things that struck me was I said, Ronnie, you know, I hate to ask this. What's the prognosis on on the condition President Biden has?
And, you know, well, he said he wasn't an expert. He said it was 12 to 18 months. He's spoken to a lot of urologists who know a lot about this. And and that's what it said. And you have to wonder. And I know this has been talked about to death.
Stage four prostate cancer that spread to the bones doesn't show up overnight. Right. It's a very slow moving illness, prostate cancer. And it's either criminal negligence that they didn't uncover this when he was in the White House or clearly some kind of an active cover up.
Sam Stone: Do you believe that he really has not had a PSA test since 2014?
Jon Levine: No. I think that sounds crazy, but it's possible. I don't know. I can't. It's hard to believe. I do know this. He had a condition called benign prostatic hyperplasia, which is not linked to cancer, but it's, you know,
a thing that happens to older men with prostate enlarges. And he had that treated. And it's mentioned in President Biden's medical report from 2019. And you can see he had this condition. It was treated with surgery. And it definitively says no cancer detected. So they at least said there was no cancer in December of 2019.
So something was checked at that time. Now, I don't know. Did they just... They had this prostate issue, and then the second that was resolved, they never went back and looked at the prostate again? I don't know. It seems crazy. The president of the United States has to be being checked for everything.
Chuck Warren: Right.
Jon Levine: And prostate cancer is incredibly common among older men. And they try to sing you a song and dance. Well, the guidelines are 55 to 70 or 40 to 70. But give me a break. That might be for the general population, not for the president of the United States.
Sam Stone: No.
Jon Levine: And Kevin O'Connor said he checked Trump and Obama for this, and Trump was also over the 70-year-old line as well when he was being checked for this. It's just basic medical, good medical practice. Yeah. It's crazy if it didn't happen, but I don't know. Maybe it didn't happen.
Chuck Warren: Maybe being couch potato psychiatrist here, maybe he just, because of his son's death, he just didn't want to know. Out of sight, out of mind. Maybe that's his mentality on it.
Jon Levine: It's possible. And, you know, if the president says, I don't want a PSA test, you know, what are you going to do? Can't make him get one. But it's all very, very weird.
And I don't know that we'll ever get a real answer because I think they're going to just hide behind HIPAA laws.
Chuck Warren: Yes.
Jon Levine: Well, we can't discuss medical stuff, you know, laws, you know, and that'll be that.
Chuck Warren: Which will be the worst thing for them because it continues to deteriorate people's trust on the press, on this White House, on their truthfulness. It's just because if you don't share it, people are going to think, of course, you had it and you knew. That's where they're going to go with this.
Jon Levine: Of course. It'll be the least charitable interpretation, which in my experience is usually the right one.
Sam Stone: That brings up kind of another interesting thing. It just occurred to me, how have we gotten this far now from the Biden administration and there isn't an insider tell-all, a real insider tell-all book out? That's actually sort of impressive in a certain sense.
Jon Levine: Well, Biden's staff, we must remember, is very, very loyal to him.
Chuck Warren: Yes.
Jon Levine: He's had the same people around him for 20, 30 years, like Ron Klain and Steve, Steve Reschetti and Donnellan. So right off the bat, it's not like Kamala,
who cycles through cycle through staff every six months. He has loyal people who've been in the forever. But also, I think sooner or later, it's coming. I think it's maybe when Biden has sort of left the scene and uh, more permanently when we're not with them.
Sam Stone: Maybe when Trump is left the scene.
Chuck Warren:Yeah.
Jon Levine: I think a lot of people, yeah, right. Cause it would seem in a way like disloyal to Biden to write that book when Trump is president, when the current era we're in has passed and it will like everything is a season. Um, I think you will start to see people open up a little bit more.
Uh, and there'll be a market for it. There will, there will be a market because I really think the American people do want to know exactly what happened and what went down and not whispering anonymous sources to Jake Tapper, who was complicit in the coverup,
but an honest first person account with someone who will put their name to it and provide the receipts. That we don't have yet.
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